6/13/06

misery week day two

schopenhauer said that people should greet other people as 'fellow sufferer' instead of saying things like 'how are you doing today?' or 'what's up?'

should just say, 'fellow sufferer'

schopenhauer was miserably unhappy and wrote very long philosophical works complaining about being and existence, humans, hegel, received phrases, noise, and other things

he died

schopenhauer said we should consider how horrible it is that one of the most effective ways to relieve misery and depression is to think of those more miserable and depressed than we are

schopenhauer was lonely beginning from a young age and i feel terrible thinking about his shitty eighty or whatever years sitting in his room feeling miserable, shitty, and lonely

after eighty years he died

think about buddhism

people who make it their goal to not have an identity, to not being a person, to not being alive, pretty much, to go against consciousness, yet somehow still feel something, feel what a tree might feel, assuming that trees feel things, doing all this in order to avoid suffering; and doing it without humor, sarcasm, irony, or possibility of reversal

seems serious and miserable

also, think about this:

people everywhere every day on TV, in books, in the newspaper, in literary magazines, in creative writing classes, in conversation praise all the miserable writers that have created beautiful art

every day there is new praise for whatever miserable writer who has created a beautifully miserable thing of art

now read again what i said about schopenhauer in the beginning of misery week day two:
schopenhauer said we should consider how horrible it is that one of the most effective ways to relieve misery and depression is to think of those more miserable and depressed than we are
this post is about good morning, midnight by jean rhys

today is tuesday

have a nice tuesday

9 Comments:

Blogger chapman said...

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10:44 AM  
Blogger Kristen Iskandrian said...

I like the way Jean Rhys deals with time in Good Morning, Midnight. There are flashbacks, and more recent flashbacks, and the present moment, but there is no glaring distinction between the past and the present, because she recognizes that things do not "get better," that at no point was there a time of "happiness" except for, say, at the moment when a decision has been made to maybe order a new drink or have the hair dyed. The very wrenching thought that the memory invents happiness as a way to deal with the misery of the present--and there is only, ever, the present--is to me one reason why this book is so good and unbearable. Her use of ellipses is interesting. Ellipses often make me cringe but in this book it's really the perfect punctuation; one dot each for past, present, future, all in a row with no difference and no foreseeable end, or hinting at an end that's too terrible and too tiring to reveal explicitly. There is no respite, not in memory, not in tomorrow, not at dinner or the movies, etc. Tao, maybe you have already said all this before, but it's misery week, and I wanted to comment.

From Good Morning, Midnight, on p. 109: "This damned room--it's saturated with the past....It's all the rooms I've ever slept in, all the streets I've ever walked in. Now the whole thing moves in an ordered, undulating procession past my eyes. Rooms, streets, streets, rooms...."

I just realized those ellipses have four dots. To signal the end of the sentence, to be grammatical. I bet the publishers did that. Bastards.

12:52 PM  
Blogger Tao Lin said...

i don't like beckett for some reason

someone tell me why i don't like beckett

he isn't funny to me

he's like a humorist to me

i can see him on saturday night live talking about horrible life is

someone explain to me why i'm an asshole and i don't like samuel beckett



kristen, that dot dot dot thing is nice but i always hate it when people do intellectual things like that and put things where there isn't anything there

i'm an asshole

the only thing i had to say about your comment was that i hate intellectual things

4:52 PM  
Blogger Tao Lin said...

beckett is like a humorist

he's proud that he hates life so much or something, it feels like

one time b.s. johnson used a blurb from beckett that beckett had said informally, or something, on a b.s. johnson book and beckett get angry

someone who controls their identity that much cannot really have given up on life or hate life really

i don't believe beckett

i can see him on saturday night live

jean rhys wouldn't care if someone stole her identity or whatever

people thought she was dead for 30 years after she wrote good morning, midnight

she didn't care

beckett would probably have a hissy fit if people started misquoting him places

i don't know

hemingway never talked about beckett

why didn't hemingway ever talk about beckett?

4:56 PM  
Blogger Noah Cicero said...

You hate Beckett because he is so much like you.

6:11 PM  
Blogger Kristen Iskandrian said...

Tao Lin

6:40 PM  
Blogger Mike Young said...

Hemingway and Beckett:

"Hemingway had for a long time wished to meet the by-then [I don't know when] blind James Joyce. Deciding that such an interesting cake would be a suitable gift, Hemingway went to Joyce's home in Paris. He presented the cake to Joyce's secretary Samuel Beckett, who told Hemingway that Mr. Joyce no longer received visitors. Joyce did later send Hemingway a thank-you card.

At Joyce's death the fruitcake passed on to Samuel Beckett, who in the lean years prior to "Godot" often thought of eating it. However, money, fame, and his general dislike of sweets combined to keep the cake intact."

Shady source: http://www.langston.com/Fun_People/1996/1996CFE.html

The last part is kind of dumb, because who knows what Beckett was thinking?

I don't even know if this story is true.

I'm sorry if anyone thinks it's stupid.

7:52 PM  
Blogger Bryan said...

"schopenhauer said that we should consider how horrible it is that one of the most effective ways to relieve misery and depression is to think of those more miserable and depressed than we are"

thinking about miserable people makes me miserable.

7:53 PM  
Blogger Jennifer Schaffer said...

fuck.

4:29 AM  

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