5/24/05

the easter parade by richard yates

richard yates was a depressed man who drank a lot, his novel 'the easter parade' starts by saying that neither of the two sisters, the two main characters in the novel, would ever be happy

it ends with one sister dead, maybe killed by her husband, and the other sister telling her dead sister's son that it's funny that she's almost fifty and still has not understood anything in her life

i felt a little good after reading this book because i am pretty sure that when i am almost fifty i will also not understand anything in my life, it's good to know that i am not alone in this

i believe that richard yates also, at fifty, the age he was when the book was published, did not understand anything in his life, which is why he kept on drinking and ended up dying alone in a house with a personal oxygen tank

i think he probably wrote the book with sisters instead of brothers because people would have been said things like 'what kind of man cries all the time and doesn't understand anything at age fifty and cries about it'

which somehow makes me want to talk about this article, What kind of Latino am I?, on salon, by daniel alarcon

in the article, daniel is irritated that people want to know about his parents, if his parents are poor latinos or illegal immigrants
I have come to feel I am disappointing certain people when I say I grew up in the suburbs.
i don't know what daniel is talking about, i feel that 'of course he is disappointing some people'

because he writes about people who did not grow up in the suburbs, who did not go to an expensive college, people who are not him

some people are disappointed because, given the choice, and they are given the choice, they would rather read about the third-world from someone who grew up in the third-world than from someone who grew up in the suburbs 'obviously'
It's about making things up, isn't it? Don't all writers -- regardless of race, gender, age, sexual orientation, ethnic origin, native tongue, national identity, social class -- don't we all attempt to write about people who are not ourselves? And how boring would it be if we didn't?
i feel like daniel is being naive or something

to answer daniel's questions, 'no, not all writers attempt to write about people who are not themselves' and 'i don't know how boring it would be, probably not as boring as if everyone wrote about things they didn't experience'

richard yates said he only writes about failures, people who fail in life, never about people who are succesful
When we should be judged on the basis of our ability to imagine worlds and empathize with our characters, we are instead reduced to merely representing that which we must surely know firsthand.
he said 'we should' without saying why, he didn't say the effects of not doing so and the effects of doing so and then type things saying why one of those effects is 'better' than the other

'what is he talking about'

'not everyone in the world is the same'

i am a person and i don't read a book to judge and congratulate the writer, but to feel connected to another human being

and i don't feel like i can (as effectively) feel connected to you if you're making up characters who are not you, who have not had the same experiences as you, who are deliberately not you, than if you are writing about yourself

but other people, i know, are different than me

i'm not saying it's 'bad' that you are good at 'imagining worlds'

just that me personally would rather read something by someone who does less of 'imagining worlds'

people are different, they read for different reasons, and it is 'impossible' for anyone to logically 'should' anything unless contexts, perspectives, and goals have been defined

12 Comments:

Blogger Jane said...

"just that me personally would rather read something by someone who does less of 'imagining worlds'"

Sounds like maybe you should stick to nonfiction, then, RODB.

3:59 PM  
Blogger Pete said...

Authenticity is such an absurd and modern problem, and I think it has more to do with consumerism than art itself.

Why is an ethnic writer held to a different standard than, say, a writer of fantasy or science fiction? What about a writer who grew up in a family making under $30,000 a year (gross) in Kalamazoo, but writes aboutfamilies that make $45,000 a year (gross) in Wilkes-Barre? Is that okay? Can I write in the voice of a woman? "Hi, My name is Sylvia." See, I just did it. Is that disappointing? (Really?) Can I cross any boundary? Can I, as a really tall guy, only write about really tall guys? If I can cross some boundaries and not others, what makes the difference? Who decides what makes the difference?

I think that people buy things, including books, for the wrong reasons all the time. Authenticity is one such reason. Pushers of all stripes know this, and take advantage of it with marketing, because they don't care why people buy, as long as they do. That's not an artist's fault; that's consumerism's fault. No one in Athens was thinking "Yeah, that Homer's a good storyteller, but he 's never thrown a spear." No one told Harriet Beecher Stowe that because she grew up in Connecticut, she couldn't write a book about slavery. This is a modern problem, and I think we have a duty to resist it.

Now: to be serious. People have all sorts of reactions to art for all sorts of reasons. They can bring their conception of the artist into their reaction if they want to, but I don't think it is good practice. It puts us into all sorts of silly binds, including ones like the above.

4:25 PM  
Blogger Tao Lin said...

pete, i'm pretty sure that someone in athens did say that about homer, that he didn't throw spears

and i'm pretty sure that in athens back then, there was homer but also some other person, some warrior who threw spears and that they both told stories

and i'm pretty sure that if i lived in athens back then, i'd listen to the warrior who threw spears tell me about other warriors who threw spears rather than homer, who threw no spears and is good at 'make-believe'

am i 'wrong' in this?

should i go listen to homer instead?

if i should, like you say i should, then please tell me why

and please use language that a person can understand

'authenticity is such an absurd and modern problem...'

that sentence is meaningless

in conclusion, i feel like i'm in middle school right now

6:43 PM  
Blogger Becky said...

I'd rather watch the movie... It's a good one! Fred Astaire and Judy Garland! That'll cheer you up!

7:19 PM  
Blogger Sam said...

I find it interesting, RODB, that you object to a middle-class, first-world author writing stories about poor, third-world characters, but not to a male author, with a Y sex chromosome, penis and testicles, writing a novel about two female characters, each with XX sex chromosomes, a vagina and two ovaries. Why, exactly, do you privilege class distinction above gender? I love Yates, but I've always considered "Easter Parade" inferior to, say, "Revolutionary Road," precisely because of the former book's failure -- in my opinion -- to imagine the psychology of its female protagonists. Of course, that doesn't mean that I begrudge his trying. Who am I to legislate Richard Yates's imagination? Should a left-handed author concern himself exclusively with left-handed characters? Should books featuring several distinct points-of-view (see the complete works of Wm. Faulkner) be written exclusively by novelists suffering multiple-personality-disorder? Please advise.

7:35 PM  
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12:53 PM  
Blogger Noah Cicero said...

Your awsome, keep posting.

11:13 PM  
Blogger Tao Lin said...

in response to SAM

"I find it interesting, RODB, that you object to a middle-class, first-world author writing stories about poor, third-world characters, but not to a male author, with a Y sex chromosome, penis and testicles, writing a novel about two female characters, each with XX sex chromosomes, a vagina and two ovaries. Why, exactly, do you privilege class distinction above gender?"

i don't object to it

all i said was that i'd rather read a third-world person writing about a third-world person from a third-world perspective than a first-world person writing about a third-world person from a third-world perspective

and i think it's objectively good to treat each unique person as a unique person, do it without categories, without saying, this person is a male, or this person is a female

yes, i said OBJECTIVELY GOOD

not an opinion, in other words, but just objectively good

good meaning less pain and suffering in the world, more happiness

"Should books featuring several distinct points-of-view (see the complete works of Wm. Faulkner) be written exclusively by novelists suffering multiple-personality-disorder? Please advise."

no

anyone can write anything they want

please re-read my post

my post wasn't AGAINST anything

it was just some thoughts

you seem to have interpreted it forcefully in a way that would allow you to argue with me

2:46 PM  
Blogger D said...

Homer was blind, wasn't he?

It would have been extremely irresponsible of him to carry a spear, let alone throw it.

I'm sure his neighbors in Athens understood this.

12:56 AM  
Blogger Tao Lin said...

if i had a time machine i'd go back in time to when homer was, say, eight years old, and i'd pass out pamphlets and the pamphlets would say, "homer likes butterflies more than spears," and if that didn't work i'd spread rumors and the rumors would say, "homer sincerely enjoys playing the oboe"

6:06 PM  
Blogger D said...

Reader of depressing books,

Based on everything I know about you, I can't believe you would really go back in time just to hand out pamphlets teasing an eight-year-old boy.

Homer would never live it down! Imagine him at thirty, on his lunch break, and when he opens his lunch pail all these butterflies fly out. And all his coworkers double over laughing at the joke they've played on Homer.

I'm imagining that Homer worked at some sort of quarry, like Fred Flintstone.

But the second idea is good, about him sincerely enjoying playing the oboe. Becuase then, when Homer was reciting his poems, everyone would be paying extra close attention, wondering when he was going to take out his oboe and play. And if he didn't, then there would be even greater anticipation at his next performance. And so on.

12:19 AM  
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